If you missed our 2019 Student Leadership Conference, you can still catch one of its highlights: a live taping of the Cato foreign policy podcast Power Problems. Host Emma Ashford spoke with New America’s Heather Hurlburt about her recent Lawfare article “Making Sense of the Grand Strategy Debate.” The two dug into the growing discussion of the future of America’s role in the world, exploring the origins of and tensions within many emerging positions. Students had the opportunity to pose their questions to Ashford and Hurlburt about the wide range of topics covered in the episode.

You can listen to the episode below. You can find the show notes (including many of the articles mentioned) and links to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, and more here.